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What are your thoughts of the application of the rules in this incident?

Is professional golf hurting the game?

Do you hate vague rules?
# 1    9/16/2017 10:31:05 AM   
4-2. Playing Characteristics Changed and Foreign Material

a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.

b. Foreign Material
Foreign material must not be applied to the club face for the purpose of influencing the movement of the ball.


Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule?

The stickers were applied for the launch monitor. That was the intent.

How did they influence the movement of the ball?

If removed during the round would they in any way change the characteristics of the club?


Mongo68
Legend
 
# 2    9/17/2017 7:48:03 AM   

4-2. Playing Characteristics Changed and Foreign Material

a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.

b. Foreign Material
Foreign material must not be applied to the club face for the purpose of influencing the movement of the ball.


Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule?

The stickers were applied for the launch monitor. That was the intent.

How did they influence the movement of the ball?

If removed during the round would they in any way change the characteristics of the club?


You can't change the playing characteristics of the club during a round. Like with today's adjustable heads from hybrids through drivers. If the rule wasn't in place a player who was fighting a bad slice could just take his wrench and adjust the head for a draw.

As far as the stickers on the face of the club, it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. I've heard of vaseline or chapstick being applied and I remember seeing a clear label that could be put on the face. I think I saw it on Ebay but couldn't find a link in a quick search.


# 3    9/17/2017 8:25:15 AM   
Interview

http://www.golfwrx.com/470516/../

Not his club, just an example of the stickers. Those things really take the bite out of those miss hits.....
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# 4    9/17/2017 8:26:17 AM   


4-2. Playing Characteristics Changed and Foreign Material

a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.

b. Foreign Material
Foreign material must not be applied to the club face for the purpose of influencing the movement of the ball.


Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule?

The stickers were applied for the launch monitor. That was the intent.

How did they influence the movement of the ball?

If removed during the round would they in any way change the characteristics of the club?


You can't change the playing characteristics of the club during a round. Like with today's adjustable heads from hybrids through drivers. If the rule wasn't in place a player who was fighting a bad slice could just take his wrench and adjust the head for a draw.

As far as the stickers on the face of the club, it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. I've heard of vaseline or chapstick being applied and I remember seeing a clear label that could be put on the face. I think I saw it on Ebay but couldn't find a link in a quick search.


I agree with your comments, however you didn't answer my questions.


Mongo68
Legend
 
# 5    9/17/2017 11:41:13 AM   



4-2. Playing Characteristics Changed and Foreign Material

a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.

b. Foreign Material
Foreign material must not be applied to the club face for the purpose of influencing the movement of the ball.


Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule?

The stickers were applied for the launch monitor. That was the intent.

How did they influence the movement of the ball?

If removed during the round would they in any way change the characteristics of the club?


You can't change the playing characteristics of the club during a round. Like with today's adjustable heads from hybrids through drivers. If the rule wasn't in place a player who was fighting a bad slice could just take his wrench and adjust the head for a draw.

As far as the stickers on the face of the club, it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. I've heard of vaseline or chapstick being applied and I remember seeing a clear label that could be put on the face. I think I saw it on Ebay but couldn't find a link in a quick search.


I agree with your comments, however you didn't answer my questions.


Yes I did...
Q. Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule? A. it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives.

Q. How did they influence the movement of the ball? A. Same answer-it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. Conversely, taking them off has an effect as well.

What am I missing in your question???


# 6    9/17/2017 1:39:21 PM   




4-2. Playing Characteristics Changed and Foreign Material

a. Playing Characteristics Changed
During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means.

b. Foreign Material
Foreign material must not be applied to the club face for the purpose of influencing the movement of the ball.


Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule?

The stickers were applied for the launch monitor. That was the intent.

How did they influence the movement of the ball?

If removed during the round would they in any way change the characteristics of the club?


You can't change the playing characteristics of the club during a round. Like with today's adjustable heads from hybrids through drivers. If the rule wasn't in place a player who was fighting a bad slice could just take his wrench and adjust the head for a draw.

As far as the stickers on the face of the club, it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. I've heard of vaseline or chapstick being applied and I remember seeing a clear label that could be put on the face. I think I saw it on Ebay but couldn't find a link in a quick search.


I agree with your comments, however you didn't answer my questions.


Yes I did...
Q. Please explain to me how the launch monitor stickers were in violation of this rule? A. it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives.

Q. How did they influence the movement of the ball? A. Same answer-it's well known that putting materials on the clubface will cut down the spin of the ball. Which depending on your swing speed, could add distance to your drives. Conversely, taking them off has an effect as well.

What am I missing in your question???


Intent. Rule reads "for the purpose". Purpose of sticker was for the launch monitor. Location of sticker along edge of club face, well away from the sweet spot render them useless for manipulating the flight of the ball.

Anyone seeking to break this rule by putting the stickers there will meet with the same level of success as wyle e Coyote and his acme missle.


Xtrm10
Amateur
 
# 7    10/3/2017 11:16:15 AM   
To me he had no intent to break the rule or change the club which is part of the rule that a player must have intent.



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